tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26869407.post2311663795531513005..comments2023-10-25T08:45:06.229-04:00Comments on Dave Carrol : The BIG gameDave Carrolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12138953216264463289noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26869407.post-72167937338754954502009-02-04T03:29:00.000-05:002009-02-04T03:29:00.000-05:00LOL I had that figured :-)Is it wrong to bail whe...LOL I had that figured :-)<BR/><BR/>Is it wrong to bail when you know there are attitudes that are wrong, usually in leadership positions where they stand the lose the most (ie) money, prestige, popularity, lime-light??<BR/><BR/>Is it wrong to bail when you know the spirit has been shoved aside for the flesh?<BR/><BR/>I disagree that the church is not perfect.<BR/><BR/>She is perfect and washed in the blood. <BR/>She follows the voice of God. <BR/>She has her lamp filled with oil and is waiting and watching.<BR/>"My sheep hear my voice and they follow me" <BR/>She is found in every place that the Lord is found.<BR/>There is no fault and there is no sin for she has the fruits of the spirit against which there is no law. <BR/>She is truly free. <BR/><BR/>I'm talking true bride here. <BR/><BR/>You say you have a big ear ... <BR/>Are you hearing big, Dave :-)<BR/><BR/>In your own words <BR/>"the show" isn't good... for sure...<BR/><BR/>Do you really think the Lord doesn't do all things with great beauty and creativity beyond our fleshly imitations?<BR/><BR/>I don't at this time go to an organized church service ... I have good reasons and none of them are the ones you have written.<BR/><BR/>... a problem with authority, or pride, or selfishness... or are running from accountability. <BR/><BR/>Are you sure the things you have rattled off here are really truthful?Valorosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07879571162743027865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26869407.post-75939646007993200692009-02-03T07:46:00.000-05:002009-02-03T07:46:00.000-05:00In my comment i meant to say "the church is not pe...In my comment i meant to say "the church is not perfect"Dave Carrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12138953216264463289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26869407.post-71939310919964570012009-02-03T05:50:00.000-05:002009-02-03T05:50:00.000-05:00While it's true that that's the conclusion many "t...While it's true that that's the conclusion many "true believers" abandon church... I have a big problem with it honestly. <BR/><BR/> "the show" isn't good... for sure... but in my experience (and observation)most people who have an issue with "organized religion" and use it as an excuse not to come to church... have a problem with authority, or pride, or selfishness... or are running from accountability. Something has offended them and instead of actually working it through, they bail. The church is perfect, nor are those in it... we're the bride who is in the process of being refined together. <BR/><BR/>To be honest... I wish the church would become MORE organized... not less. We need Godly, functioning structure... and strategic mobilization of various bodies in cities with healthy structure.Dave Carrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12138953216264463289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26869407.post-32577857158715595072009-02-03T01:40:00.000-05:002009-02-03T01:40:00.000-05:00"Those who have His heart will do the same for tho..."Those who have His heart will do the same for those in trouble. True Christians are in basic unity about worship ...<BR/>and everything else....<BR/><BR/>True Christians are all over the world in every walk and in every group of people ... they don't make up one gathering of people. <BR/><BR/>That's why organized church is so frustrating. <BR/><BR/>It would be nice if the talking would stop and the doing would start.<BR/><BR/>If the 'show' would stop and the real thing emerge.<BR/><BR/>I guess that is why there are so many secrets and divisions among organized church goers and why many true believers just don't show up at all.Valorosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07879571162743027865noreply@blogger.com